Man Killed on Millburn Train Tracks
Fatality delays NJ Transit trains for 30 to 60 minutes.
updated: Nov. 17, see addendum at the bottom of the story.
A man died after being struck by a NJ Transit train at the Millburn station around 6 p.m., authorities confirmed.
According to witnesses, the man was apparently on the tracks when a train struck him.
NJ Transit spokeswoman Penny Bassett Hackett said the train that struck the man was not carrying passengers and was on its way to New York's Penn Station. The incident caused delays up to an hour during the evening commute on the Morris/Essex line and also closed the station to one track.
Bassett Hackett said they had not yet identified the man and that NJ Transit police were investigating the death. She said only the state Medical Examiner could determine if it was a suicide or accident.
Eyewitnesses said the train that hit the man was a train that was not scheduled to stop at the station and said the man appeared to be praying just before the incident.
Deborah Dixon, a Manhattan resident who has worked in Millburn for 25 years, was one of the people on who saw the train hit the man.
"I first thought he tripped on the tracks but then he stretched out and dove into it," she said, crying. "It looked like he timed it so that the train could not stop. It was horrible. That image is going to stay with me for a long time."
Living in New York City, Dixon is accustomed to seeing people trip on train tracks or subway tracks and getting helped back up but this time, she said, "There was no way to help him. There was nothing anyone could have done. It was that quick."
Update Nov. 17: As of Thursday, neither the Medical Examiner's Officer or NJ Transit had identified the man, said John Durso with NJ Transit. The case is still under investigation, he said.
See follow up stories for more information.
Elizabeth Moore contributed to this report.
This is a breaking story and Patch will update it as soon as more information becomes available.
MillerTime
8:22 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Wow! This is becoming a commonplace. Very sad and selfish way to end it.
Jersey
9:54 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Miller Time ... More like troubled than selfish.
Jersey Domer
9:19 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Repeated tragedies are still tragedies -- let's hope they're never considered commonplace. May God bless this soul and his family.
Lauren Bright Pacheco
11:39 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
My heart breaks for this man and his family. Many will point out that suicide is a VERY permanent solution for a temporary problem, but the pain this man must have been in to consider it his only solution must indeed be Hell on Earth.
If time really does heal all wounds, I only hope it helps his loved ones deal with the loss they will navigating in the days, weeks and years going forward. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
MOMSH
11:48 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
I think it is unfair to call this man selfish. He clearly had major problems in his life to do this, ones he could not cope with. We won't know what those issues were but regardless, its still not right to add a "selfish" label to him. This was an act of desperation and mental illness. Its very sad that there was no one that he could have turned to for help in working out whatever issues he was facing.
D Marie
11:51 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011
There's a really great psychology book called "Myths About Suicide" that was published recently. You might say that this is selfish or a solution to a temporary problem, but most people who reach this point are so alienated for so long and suffering so much that the idea that it would be selfish is foreign to them. I was late for Jeopardy tonight, but so what? This person must have had such problems they felt they couldn't escape and that the world would be better off without him. It's really devastating, and along with the Amber Alert that just went out I'm a bit shaken tonight.
That being said, kudos to NJT for getting the trains back on so quickly. My train sat in Millburn for only 30 minutes and I was very thankful they gave us the option of leaving; I hear others in Secaucus weren't so lucky.
MarkDS
5:43 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
There was a whole train crew that had it a lot worse than being "late for Jeopardy". So yes, committing suicide by jumping in front of a train is an act that no amount of depression or mental illness excuses. And the horrible consequences on others from the act should be the prominent factor in any discussion of the event. (original deleted and retyped due to spelling errors).
Ms SH
12:54 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
i appreciate all the thoughts above and commute every day. When something so horrible happens, everyone needs to take stock and realize a delay is a small price to pay for others permanent pain. When having an especially good day, try to remind self to feel this way on a bad day or on a bad day that there will be good days ahead. Obviously the man who ended his life today didn't feel this. A reminder to everyone to keep it in perspective.
J S Beckerman
10:04 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
MarkDS...you are way off base on this one, morally and clinically.
dd
10:06 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I would call somebody who shoot others before shooting himself selfish, not this man who jumped in front of a train. It was very sad.
MarkDS
10:09 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Do you realize the lifetime impact on the crew, especially the engineer, that has to experience such a suicide? It is extreme and just like if the person had shot someone first.
J S Beckerman
10:16 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I am confident that given the victim's state of mind, rational thought was not part of the equation. Selfishness is purposeful action with knowledge of the consequences of the action.
Let's move on as you are sounding more and more like an ass.
MarkDS
10:34 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
If someone kills someone else the bar is very high to a successful insanity defense. The bar should be just as high to such a defense of an act that imposes severe trauma on others, the train crew. It is the train crew that is the victim of this event and it is their trauma that makes this event a crime rather than a tragedy. The train crew was assaulted yesterday.
@home
10:39 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Before my children come home from school to tell me who it was, can someone identify them here?
J S Beckerman
10:47 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
MarkDs: Take Abraham Lincoln's advice..."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
John Fonseca
10:52 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
No one here knows who this guy was or what brought him to perform this act. Maybe it was something that happened to him or something that he did that he couldn't live with. Maybe he was off his meds and the problem was only in his mind. All speculation and no basis in fact.
Trying to figure it out or analyze it is fruitless, as is arguing about it. There are only two facts that we can reasonably count on: a man killed himself by using a train as a weapon, and other people were affected by this act in varying degrees of severity.
LDSF
10:59 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
If the fatality of suicide is viewed as the inconvenience delays NJ Transit trains for 30 to 60 minutes, and the concern is to worry about the working crew than not having CSI to involve, this really reflects the serious ignorance of public health problems. Ending life so publicly may be under the perception to demonstrate the sense of a protest to a relief. A number of help demonstration centers for the prevention of suicide should be suggested to set up in the areas under the local director of mental health. Blaming a dead smashed body under the train track is far more worst than wrong spelling posting. So Agree to take Abraham Lincoln advice.
MarkDS
11:07 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
You post reflects a total lack of understanding of the impact this type of event has on the crew, especially the engineer. I thank amazinaznboy for his link below. There are many similar stories. Including engineers who were never able to return to their job again because of the extent of the trauma. This is where sympathy should be directed.
amazinaznboy
11:03 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Read this article for a glimpse at how this might effect the train engineer. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/01/AR2009100102404.html
Leslie
2:29 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
A pertinent excerpt:
"It's such a mixture of both anger and compassion, I don't know where one ends and the other starts," said Evans, who estimates that about half of his fatal strikes were suicides. "They're doing this to you, too. It's a hard thing to take home."
According to a British study, 16 percent of train operators involved in fatal incidents develop post-traumatic stress. For some, getting right back behind the controls is the best way to shake off the shadows of violence. For others, years of counseling are needed before they can return to everything they love about driving a train.
Some never do.
chokhi
11:06 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
May be MarkDS is a train engineer. Otherwise I am not sure why is he going on about the impact on the train crew and the engineer. Yes, they get to see that accident first hand and may have lifelong bad memories of that but there are many jobs like that in which people get to see others being killed. Truth is all those people knew before they apply for those jobs that this sort of thing can happen because of the nature of that job ie: train crew/ engineer, police, firemen etc etc.
MarkDS
11:09 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Wow, your lack of sympathy for the crew is amazing. I would agree that police and firefighters would consider this type of thing part of their job. But even there the trauma is real. But train crew? It is not part of the job they signed up for.
LDSF
11:16 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
MarkDS, You have any Halloween candy left over? You may tell the killed man ghost about his act of crime that traumatizes others. I believe the working crew and engineers should ask for therapist help in this case. It is really a tragedy.
Marty Wilson
11:21 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Matt - Mark DS has already 'outed' himself in past postings. He lives on Byron. I will let him divulge his name if he wants. Mark - your logic in taking umbrage at the person committing suicide falls apart when you look at the crime of murder. Using your logic, somebody who commits murder should be guilty of two crimes - taking somebody elses life and causing trauma to those who had to witness this and suffer the consequences. The latter is just not the case. People who unfortunately witnessed a murder do not feel grieved because of their inconvenience but rather because of the tragic loss of life (possibly with the exception of you), although you specifically have never been on here after a murder saying - "boy, it really sucks that the life was taken but more painful to me was that I missed jeopardy or my train was late or that I had to actually watch the murder unfold.' As somebody above mentioned, you are missing the boat here - and I think there is some issue that you may have faced in the past which makes you really have it out for people who commit suicide. I'm not really sure I want to know why you feel this way though.
MarkDS
11:40 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Marty, the nature is different than you describe it. It is not just "causing trauma to those who had to witness this and suffer the consequences." Rather, for the train crew but especially the engineer it is as if the murderer committed the crime by coercing a third party into pulling the trigger. And thus there is 2 distinct crimes.
J S Beckerman
11:22 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
MarkDS....all doubt has been removed.
MarkDS
11:30 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Yes it has been. Because you still have not expressed any sympathy for the crew
And no, I have never had to experience any trauma like this thankfully so you are all off base on that one.
chokhi
11:27 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
How about your sympathy for the man who died?
mommakiddies
12:16 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Compassion...... we need compassion!
First, let's state the obvious: someone, somewhere just had a loved one basically die in conditions that are unimaginable. They may be reading this.
Similarly, and to Mark's point, people were similarly traumatized by witnessing such a violent end. I am in agreement with that.
However-think about what it takes to STEP IN FRONT OF A TRAIN. This is a horrific way to end--literally, the most violence one can inflict on one's body. To kill yourself in such a manner is to do two things: 1. Express one final act of self hatred and 2. Make others be a witness to it so that the world can no longer ignore the pain. Their perception, not mine.
On point #2, people may characterize it as selfish, and I suppose it is a inwardly focused action to take. However, a person in that state of mind is in EXTREME pain. The kind of pain that feels like a fire is burning inside....it's that terrible. People in that condition literally want the physical hurt to match the psychological pain....and they want the invisibility they feel to be acknowledged.
That is a damn sad state of affairs.
It is always helpful to remember that we don't know what it feels like to walk in another's shoes. I always like to say that I was the best mother before I had kids...because only after I did it, did I understand it.
I grieve for all involved and I urge us all to be kind to one another. None of us know what goes on behind these computers.
Words matter.
lisa
12:25 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Well said on all levels, mommakiddies! Just one point to add.. we all are worried about kids bullying each other, but when you read what adults write to each other you realize that kids might be learning it from the adults around them. Words do matter, I agree.
mommakiddies
12:33 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Thanks Lisa.
I think one of the things that jumped out to me is this: people who commit suicide feel isolated and nothing isolates a person more than judgement.
Although we like to think we all came to this earth with the same attributes, we don't all possess the same level of resilience nor do we all come with the same abilities to connect with others, socially etc. Every time we judge a person (AND I DO IT TOO) we isolate them just a little bit more. This goes both ways.
Does this mean I think we should all be super pollyana and forgive all? I wish I could---alas, my type A self won't allow it. I get mad when I perceive people are being mean, or not pulling their weight, or selfish. We all do. However--the same way I have been trying to teach my kids to make their points without anger, I realize that I need to model the same.
Someday, maybe I will get there.
Meantime, I a sunny, upbeat person but years ago, I had something sad happen to me. I was riding in a car when I was seized with the inexplicable desire to fling myself out of it. Scared, I consulted with a psychiatrist who told that nugget about wanting the physical pain to match what one is feeling inside. It was not much of a leap to realize the rest of what this man's mind frame could have been like.
Assuming, he was otherwise sane, of course.
lisa
1:14 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Your personal story is very sad, but luckily enough it ended well. My guess is that those feelings are more prevalent than you might think. Its probably what enables some people to have such sympathy for what this person was feeling. Interesting commentary from the psychiatrist.
mommakiddies
1:24 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Lisa: It probably sounds worse than it was--it was just a flashing thought. However--since I am such not that kind of person, I sought help.
Sad things and setbacks happen to all of us but if we are sane, and have support and coping skills, we bounce back. That is not always possible for all....
Hedley
12:47 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I wonder how all the comments here would change if it turns out the man who committed suicide was a criminal and not someone who lost is job and had nowhere to turn, etc., as is assumed. If Bernie Madoff or Jerry Sandusky, for example, decided to end it all by jumping in front of a train, I can't imagine there would be much heartbreak.
mommakiddies
1:08 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Maybe for some people, but I know I'd still be sad.
A wasted life is always a shame.
LDSF
1:03 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
It is another jump off the train incident of heartbreaking news. My prayers go out to the soul rest in peace. Words does matter. "The act of repaying kindness is called positive reciprocity; that of avenging unfairness, negative reciprocity. Many people incline more to the first, others more to the second, and others to both about equally."
Susan
1:43 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
One important thing that nobody mentioned is the poor Locomotive Engineer who had to be at the center of this. Nobody realizes the heartache and trauma that he/she is now put through. This troubled person chose the easy way out rather than asking for help and as such has now ruined another individuals life by having the Engineer relive this horrible tragedy in their head day after day! Feeling helpless and responsible! I attest first hand to the trouble that lies ahead for this Engineer as I am the wife of an Engineer who has been in the same situation. Try and realize that this man has now nothing to care about or think about but his family, friends and the poor Engineer have an extremely rough road ahead. I pray for each life lost but we live in a society where there is plenty of help and many people out there wanting to help.
MarkDS
1:49 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Well, not nobody. I certainly have maid that my central point. But doing so is like swimming against the stream here.
Stash
1:53 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I have personally been touched by the suicide of someone close to me. It is heartbreaking to lose someone by suicide and tragic for everyone touched by this person in life and everyone impacted by their death.
MissyA
2:14 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I don't feel bad for the man who killed himself, I feel for his family but more than that.. I feel for the poor engineer who is trying to support his own family and was forced to see and hear this man take his life... it was a cruel and selfish act on his part.. Ok, so he wants to kill himself... why drag other people into your insanity? The engineer must now live with this visual. Has anyone given a thought to that? I have no choice, the engineer is my fiance and he is broken over this, he is suffering. Feel for him first.
MissyA
2:22 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Just a side note... the guy who commited suicide had a choice... the engineer DIDN'T !!!
MissyA
1:54 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Matt Stewart: I am offended at your assumption that I am dancing on this mans grave... are you kidding, I am mearly pointing out that his choice to take his life "publically" and dragging innocent people with him is just wrong.. and as far as your point that the engineer has a choice, go get another job... well, these are tough times and jobs are few and far between... you hiring??? what that man did was selfish, Suicide is a selfish act, and keep in mind, my little sister killed herself 5 years ago and her choice was selfish as well, but aside from the pain we feel for losing her and not being able to help her out of her depressed state that would bring her to that decision, she did not force another person or people to get involved in her decision, no one had to pull the rope that hung her.
Furthermore, The engineer, nor myself are looking for a gold medal here... just perhaps the awarness that the pain is so much further spread when one chooses to force others to witness such horrific acts.
dayton-girl
2:27 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Even without knowing fully what this troubled man was thinking we can be certain of this - he chose to kill himself in a very public way. That was a concious choice. He could have chosen to take his life privately. I agree with MarkDS ... for those who don't, would you have a different opinion if a person had walked into your office (without knowing you) and shot themselves right in front of you? I would like some advice about trying to explain this to my children.
Marty Wilson
11:33 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Dayton - I guess we are not sure it was a conscious choice and that somebody so 'not well' couldn't really factor in how it would affect other people. Some people get mad at a kid when they wet their pants or cry, others get mad at a suicidal person for jumping in front of a train - misplaced anger. MissyA - the engineer has a choice - get another career. people unfortunately jump in front of trains to kill themselves - it comes with the terroritory.
LDSF
2:58 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
"I pray for each life lost but we live in a society where there is plenty of help and many people out there wanting to help." If one believe the society has plenty of help and many people out there wanting to help, I truly hope the engineer seeks positive mental help. There is a choice. Life is always said as a journey on train. If you don't have time to watch this video, the intention of asking others to seek help is just an empty said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ooowrsX2k
chokhi
2:59 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
With all the sympathies to the train crew and any other person who is effected- How do we know that the person who died had a choice? How can we say that he did not try all he could? May be he did not get help he needed. Let's not assume that he did not seek any help. These are tough times for many people and it is not always possible for everyone to get help that they need. It looks easy to people who do not need help but may not be the same picture for the ones who are actually seeking help!
Leslie
3:22 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
To anyone reading these comments who are having trouble: There is a lot of help available. Every NJ Transit station has a sign posted with a telephone number to call if you are thinking of hurting yourself.
Deborah Dixon
10:50 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I was there that night and saw what happen. I have not had a good night' sleep since this happen. I want to cry for this man all the time. I think to myself what must have drvoe him to do this. Who was he? Could someone have helped him. I can 't get the image of it out of my head.
mommakiddies
10:52 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I'm so sorry Deborah!
robbin
8:13 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
deborah i was there to i was the one sitting next to you on the bench and i also cant get it out of my mind either.it is a horrible image i no what your going though.my prays for family or friends.
LDSF
4:06 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
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MillerTime
4:07 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I respect all of your opinions. I still feel its selfish to forever mentally scar the conductor and other witnesses with such a horrific memory. Maybe commonplace wasnt the best word to use but I have lived in Short Hills all my life and mentally ill people jumping in front of the trains at the Short Hills station seems to be happening much more often. Lets all remember that this is America and we are entitled to our own opinion on a subject.
MissyA
1:44 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Miller: It is selfish, I agree fully... the engineer is devistated as well as Deborah Dixon, I feel so badly for them both...
JZ Quinn
9:13 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
For all those calling the act selfish. You are trying to rationalize irrational thinking. That is irrational.
LDSF
4:31 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
As we all remember that this is America and you and I are absolutely entitled to "own opinions" on a subject. When we are discussing on a subject, we are not dealing with "own opinion" in isolation; we also have to decide whether it is better to place a higher value on "opinion" than on the value of privacy, security, equality, or the prevention of harm. The news has brought up the attention of 'Fatality'.
LDSF
4:56 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Actions without thinking about others are selfish. "Expressing opinions" without thinking about others are also selfish.
MillerTime
5:27 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
No satisfisying anyone in here unless you agree completely with their opinion that killing yourself while harming others is not selfish just sick.
Bryan
5:30 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Only in Millburn can someone, who undoubtedly had issues (mental, financial, familial, whatever...) and did not feel they could carry on any longer, be considered "selfish" for delaying their precious 5:20 Midtown Direct.
Jersey
7:39 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
"Only in Millburn ....." ???? Wow! Guess you don't get around much.
MillerTime
5:34 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Think you missed the point Byran...I think everyone was referring to witnesses and conductor who will forever remember the awful sight.
Bryan
6:00 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Sorry, should've framed my comment in a better way.
I'm talking about the select few comments (though some appear to have been taken down) that have abstained from discussing "selfishness" in those terms, but merely from the standpoint of delaying the train and subjecting thousands of commuters to losing a precious hour of their after-work time.
LDSF
6:26 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
The news has not announced that was a suicide or an accident (safety issue). Just because the jump in-front-of the train incidents happened few times. It is an automatic assume. I find the some of the comments are almost misleading. It was a traumatized experiences to witness such a disturbing scene. NJ Transit offers counselling services for the engineers and contractors. It is fatality.
LDSF
7:17 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
more preoccupied with the "what"...rather than the "why"....it is unbelievable to see "how" it starts to "defend."
Susan1
7:40 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I think we should all agree that this entire situation is filled with victims - the poor man who felt he had no way out, his family/friends, the horrified witnesses. Debating which ones hurt more is irrelevant. I'm more interested in how we can be kinder to each other, and perhaps how we can help people facing problems to see and find a way out. There's enough trouble to go around these days; let the kindness start here.
Bryan
8:53 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Well said.
DudeSummit
9:21 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Stay classy Short Hills-Millburn...then again it is Short Hills and Millburn...oh well...
"don't overestimate the decency of the human race"- Mencken
LDSF
10:27 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Amen.
John Fonseca
11:42 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Interesting... I just went back to the June 14 article about the lady that died over here by the SH station on the rails.
She only got 36 comments compared to 86 on this one. A portion of those were about the release of the name itself. Most of the rest were of the same care bear type as most of the comments here, plumbing the depths of human sympathy and compassion . I also noticed that some of the same people that are yelling at each other on this thread were at it on the other. There's a lot to be said for consistency.
Like I said before. No one here knows who this guy was or what his deal was. The only thing for sure is that he jumped in front of the train and now he's dead.
Someone else above had commented about the signs at the NJT stations with the suicide hotline info being helpful. I have to say, if I was in the mindset of offing myself with the transit system, a foamcore with creepy pictures of people with no faces probably wouldn't be what would pull me back from the edge.
KAS11
12:00 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
As a licensed psychotherapist who often works with individuals who are depressed, suicidal, and have other mental health issues, I feel compelled to comment on this article. I would first like to point out that we do not know all the details of this situation, so my reply is based on the assumption that this man committed suicide and that he suffered from some type of mental illness such as depression. Most often, individuals that we could clinically diagnosed as being depressed, who commit suicide, and who are not in treatment (therapy), are not thinking rationally. Therefore, unfortunately, I can almost guarantee you that if this was the case for this man, he was not thinking of how his actions would impact others. I would not call this selfish. I would call this an individual in such emotional turmoil who is incapable of processing how his actions would affect others around him. Are his family members, individuals who witnessed this tragedy, and others affected by this trauma victims of this incident? Absolutely. My heart breaks for this man. It breaks because he felt there was no way out other than taking his own life. My heart breaks for his family and the emotional struggle they face in the future dealing with their loss. And, my heart breaks for the individuals who witnessed this incident. What a struggle it may be for them to deal with the trauma of what they saw or heard.
KAS11
12:01 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
I think a very important point to make here is that of intervention. It is possible to get individuals who may be suicidal help. As a community, we need to be more aware of the warning signs of depression and suicide and the therapeutic resources available. And, we need to educate others that this help is available. Will everyone take the offer of help...no. However, for that person who takes the offer of help...it could be a life saved.
chokhi
12:24 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
KAS11, You said it so well. Thank you.
Frank
6:51 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
My prayers and thoughts to the man and his family. Wow, I always believed I live in an affluent but very low class part of NJ. Many of these comments confirm that notion.
LDSF
11:11 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
It is important to stress that the overall form of the argument is intended to be an inference to the best explanation. It is to address the attention to active sensory awareness of wellness mind and body and the need to take time for reflections.
Margie Freeman
11:46 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Such a tragedy! For the person who witnessed this traumatic event, if you want to call me at 973-220-9007, I might be able to help you heal from this trauma more quickly. I am certified in EMDR and would do it for no charge to you, just as a community service.
MillerTime
2:59 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
KAS11 I respect your opinion that this was not a selfish act but don't agree with it.
KAS11
4:00 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Thank you MillerTime. And I respect yours as well. I understand why you (and others) feel suicide is selfish. It is often a common reaction to suicide. However, keep in mind, the definition of "selfish" is doing something without having any regard for others. Most often, selfish individuals are aware they they put their needs before others, even at the cost of hurting other people. It is often all about them. Individuals who are suicidal often are unable to comprehend that others will be affected by their suicide. Their thought process is not rational or clear. I think that is why it is very difficult for a lot of people to understand why suicide is not a selfish act. Because, these individuals are thinking rationally unlike the suicidal person. Regardless, the situation is a tragedy. And many are unfortunately traumatized.
MillerTime
5:02 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
KAS11 you seem to contradict yourself by saying "Individuals who are suicidal often are unable to comprehend that others will be affected by their suicide" By saying that I guess you think that sometimes they know they are engaging in a selfish act that will affect others. I do agree that if someone is completely insane with no grasp of reality it is not a selfish act. I just believe the majority of people committing suicide know what they are going to do is going to hurt others especially if they jump in front of a train at a somewhat populated station.
KAS11
8:54 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
I am not contradicting myself. As you will notice, I rarely if ever say "all" or "none" and other such words that would classify everyone in one category. Because not every situation is the same. So is it possible that someone who has committed suicide knew the repercussions it would have? Sure. But, that is absolutely NOT the majority and most often, is not the case. Therefore, looking at suicide in general as a selfish act is unfair and unjust.
LDSF
6:33 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Every year millions of people around the world try to kill themselves—and nearly one million of them succeed. Suicide is the 11th biggest killer of Americans and the third-leading killer of 15- to 24-year-olds. The U.S. suicide rate is increasing for the first time in a decade, primarily as a result of the rise in the practice among whites aged 40 to 64, according to a new report covering the years 1999 to 2005 from the Center for Injury Research and Policy at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
LDSF
6:33 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
The economy is now adding to the problem: the chief financial officer of Freddie Mac killed himself last April, and so have some Americans who have been evicted from their homes. The U.S. government’s National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, begun in 2005, is also getting record numbers of calls: 57,625 in August 2009, up from 47,191 the same month a year before.
LDSF
6:45 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
The facts may show the relationship between "selfishness" and "suicide."
Suicide is also related to changes in the brain and to chemical imbalances. These factors may override the ability to reach out, may increase impulsivity, or may lower resistance to self-harm. Reports also show that about 40% suicide victims had a known history of mental illness. Many more had an undiagnosed mental illness. This say, that not enough is being done to prevent suicide among those dealing with mental illness. Every human community needs suicide prevention resources.
LDSF
6:50 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
This is from a website - Teens need to know.
"Ignorance about mental illness contributes to suicide. Stigma keeps many people from seeking help, worrying what others may think of them increase the suicide risk as this fear may stand in the way of them doing something about this problem."
"Selfish is as selfish does."
LDSF
9:21 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
It is really a dang gum topic.....Selfish is part of the illness, but it follows question of "right to judge". OK classy enough.
LDSF
12:29 am on Friday, November 18, 2011
Death on Millburn Tracks a Presumed Suicide.
MillerTime
1:47 pm on Friday, November 18, 2011
Glad they deleted all of Matt's comments. To find out bloggers home address and post it is immoral and classless.
LDSF
12:52 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011
Luke, you wrote and delete:
All victims are to be protected by the public health. The railroad company should perform evaluation to avoid suicidal access by putting up fence for many safety reasons. The killed man case has not been announced as suicide. The public mental health should also provide channel for victims who witness the tragedy to seek therapy as well. Turning an accident case to a suicide case is a crime. We need the report to confirm the cause of dealth.
LDSF
12:56 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011
Never mind. I see your comments up there.
LDSF
1:04 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011
So, the attention is to show the public how the victim wanted to end life? Enjoy your family time on Thanksgiving.
dddowd
2:30 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011
42 USC 10606 - Sec. 10606. Victims' rights
US Code - Title 42: The Public Health and Welfare
(1) The right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim's dignity and privacy. (2) The right to be reasonably protected from the accused offender. (3) The right to be notified of......... (4) The right to be present at all public court proceedings related to the offense, unless the court determines that testimony by the victim would be materially affected if the victim heard other testimony at trial. (5) The right to confer with......... attorney for the Government in the case. (6) The right to....... (7)
LDSF
10:51 pm on Monday, November 21, 2011
Should read about articles on Michael Jackson's trial? He was asking for sleeping help.
-Victims tended to presumed suicide behaviors if the victim was under depressants medication.
-Railway system with the application of a barrier approach is to measure reducing the attractiveness of railway as a means of suicide. Railway suicide and fatal accidents analysis and prevention is to be studied.
J.
3:41 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
How is it possible there haven't been any updates to this story since November 22nd? Do they still not know who this individual was after more than a week? It's like the entire story just got completely forgotten about.
Laura Griffin
4:02 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
I haven't forgotten about it, and will let you know when I know something new.
Jenny
5:15 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
It is amazing to me that nobody has updated this sad story. He must have lived near Millburn...didn't they ever find out who he was? Maybe that was part of his problem, maybe a parent passed away and he was all alone. I wish they would update this story if they found out who the man was. So sad...
J.
10:08 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Seriously? Nearly three weeks later and there's nothing new to report about this story? How incredibly disturbing that someone can jump in front of a train like that and, yet, go unclaimed by anyone for this long.
Laura Griffin
10:12 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
We've had a couple of updates, but no new information as to his identity. Very sad indeed. Police are following leads and still asking for help. http://patch.com/A-pcBC
Leslie
10:03 am on Friday, December 9, 2011
I am puzzled. They found a cell phone, though it was "destroyed." They ought to be able to extract the IMEI number from the destroyed compoenents, contact the cell phone companies, and get account information pertaining to that specific phone.
Jenny
5:46 pm on Saturday, December 10, 2011
What about a car? Was there any cars left at the station that stayed there? He must have come in a car. I can't believe nobody knows or cares about this poor man. What about putting a composite on the news or something.
J.
11:55 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Thank you, Laura. Much appreciated.