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Panic Buttons In NJ Schools Proposed By Essex Assemblyman

Democratic Assemblyman Ralph Caputo's plan would also install red emergency lights outside schools.

 

An Essex County Assemblyman has introduced a bill that would equip New Jersey public schools with a silent panic alarm that could be triggered in the event of an emergency, NJ101.5 reported.

Assemblyman Ralph Caputo, D-Belleville, said that it makes sense to link a panic button from schools to local law enforcement.

Caputo told 101.5 that legislators and police officers each support the bill.

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Not Domino

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

At first glance, this idea gets an "A" for effort. But let's think it all the way through:

a) It would cost a LOT of money to implement this. Who pays? Taxpayers, of course.
b) Where would the button(s) be located? Just in the main office? Or also in every classroom? Cafeteria? Bathrooms? Library? Gym? Locker Rooms? Any place where something worthy of reporting to the police could take place? That's everywhere, right? Remember, each additional button probably costs hundreds of dollars to install.
c) How would these panic buttons be secured so students couldn't falsely trigger them? Or would they need to be monitored by cameras? Or protected by an exploding ink cartridge that stains the hand of the person who triggers it?
d) That reminds me - don't schools already have fire alarms that can also be used to notify authorities of an emergency? Sure, they're not silent. But in the type of emergency we are trying to address, what is the value of the silence? Especially since the perp will already know that every school has a silent panic alarm, so the effect is lost.
e) What is wrong with just calling 911? Even if you pick up the phone and quickly dial 911 and set the handset down on without speaking, the cops will be coming immediately, especially if the call is coming from a school, right?
f) Imagine that each school at which there has ever been a shooting had a silent panic alarm installed. Would the outcome have been any different? Not much, I strongly suspect.

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Ryan

7:14 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

If someone pulled a fire alarm during a time like in Sandy Hook then all the kids would be in the hallway and be in the line of fire. A silent panic alarm would just go to the police and maybe that alarm can call a code red internal over the loud speaker. I think it's a good idea.

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Pete Mock

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Many people have thought this through, so I'll go point by point...

As a commenter below mentions, some schools now have staff members carry wireless alarm fobs to notify police in emergency situations. They require much less expense than a wired system (a), they work from anywhere in the building and on the school grounds (b), and having them connected to a staff member makes false alarms less of an issue (c).
Some schools have had their old fire boxes disconnected, and those that still have those connections have aging and faulty systems (d).
Unlike 911, a wireless panic button fob does not have to be located and then dialed, it can be triggered while on the move, it will get an instantaneous response from the police (no waiting for the operator to hear what's going on), the response would be appropriate for the emergency situation, and it would keep kids from the halls (e). Also, if one or more staff with a fob is incapacitated, there are others who can still trigger the alert. If you're a teacher or administrator your first thought in an emergency is to get the kids safe, and a wireless panic button allows them to get help in seconds so they can go directly to helping the kids.

These kinds of shootings may not be entirely preventable, but considering the above, this system assures a fast, appropriate and reliable response in an emergency where every second counts.

I too think it's a great idea.

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mrszzano

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

@ Pete Mock, wireless alarm fobs sound like the perfect solution - highly effective, child-proof, and easily activated. Combined with bullet-proof glass and lock-down drills, they would make me, as an educator, feel a lot safer. I'm sure most parents would agree.

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esther

11:48 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

I am confused-
1. How much exactly is a child's life worth?
2. I am sure the district consults with a security company to determine best practice.
3. It cannot be a good idea for the best plan to be pulling a fire alarm with students pouring into hallways looking to escape running directly into an armed gunman or gunmen. As a matter of fact take a look at Columbine- that was the plan.
4. You pose too many questions - but your first one is the most troubling. I stand by mine. There is no price that I wouldn't spend to ensure my children's safety in our public school. NONE- ZERO. So you can ask as many questions as you want but to me- only my question is most important.
What we need is problem solving.

Ricky

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Sounds good but kids will be kids, how do you prevent false alarms?

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Mark McCullough

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

With every man, woman, and child in this country walking around with a communications center in their pocket, I don't know if this idea is the best place to concentrate our efforts. This, and every other attempt to effectively deal with more shootings rather than limiting gun access, should take a back seat for now.

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LocalJoe

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Sounds like something that can provide increased security at moderate cost. I'm not sure that having it be a silent alarm is the way to go.

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Cindi Cook

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'd like to know more about this--where it would lie, how it would be used--in order to understand its full utilitarian value. What about installing the same withIN the classroom, instead of guns, like the NRA has proposed? Banks were at one time wide open, and now many have bulletproof glass, sadly. They may have more dollars to risk, but we have children. Sprinkler systems that respond in a split second when there is smoke, as well as smoke detectors, have saved thousands of lives. What kind of concrete applications like these can we install in classrooms so our citizens--children and adults--are protected, as well instead of having to resort to more violence to stop violence?

Love to hear more thoughts, all around --
Cindi Cook, Basking Ridge

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esther

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

All of the doors should have bullet proofed glass-everyone in Newtownn followed protocol and all the rules- and still this intruder gained access. Bullet proofed glass in doors, windows, and classrooms should be the norm. And I will have no patience for the cost questions. What do you think the parents of Newtownn would have paid for bulletproof glass that beautiful December day?

QJ201

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

makes more sense than armed guards

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Reality Chuck

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Why do politicians feel so compelled to come up with nonsense?

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Ricky

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Seems to make sense but kids will be kids so how do you prevent false alarms?

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Matthew Carmel

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Yeah, great idea. At least the school staff can be spared the alarm noise while cowering under their desks waiting for "first" responders who will always arrive after an active shooter has already started his killing.

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esther

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Yo Matthew- pay attention. The teachers DID NOT COWER UNDER THEIR DESKS. I am so tired of teachers being the scapegoats and targets of negativism. The teachers, the principal, and the guidance counselor DIED PROTECTING THE STUDENTS. Where have you been?

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mrszzano

7:51 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

esther, I'm with you.
Matthew, have you ever been in an emergency situation such as that? I wouldn't be so quick to criticize and/or mock the people who are trying to help... the police, fire, and EMT's. They would put their lives on the line any day to save lives, even nincompoops like you! And if you think the teachers and staff would be "cowering under their desks", you couldn't be more wrong! Grow up, and stop trying to put blame where it doesn't belong!

21st century concerned citizen

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Actually this is a terrific proposal. I ran operations for an International company with multiple facilities in the United States. Each receptionist in the front of the building had a panic alarm installed by their desk to use for an emergency. Unlike the idiotic proposal by the head of the NRA this proposal makes all of the sense in the world and should be implemented

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Arlene M. Baladi

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I agree...a MUCH better idea than arming the janitorial staff in the school!

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Comfortably Numb

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

i guess if you cant afford to have an armed enforcer on staff at the school you may as well have a panic button so they can get to the school quicker to clean up the mess.......Personally I'd rather prevent the mess.

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Scondo

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

The 911 system was implemented for just this reason. Quick, universal emergency response. Does a "panic button " really achieve anything more, I dare say not. How about we seek alternatives in the form of identifying those persons within our society in need of mental health intervention, let parents know where to go to receive professional advice. For instance had Adam Lanza's mother taken the time to go talk to someone, would then not have advised her to remove her considerable arsenal from her home. What was wrong with her thinking ? If you have a child who is known to you to be in need of treatment, why would you keep an arsenal in your home. So how about firearms purchase permits,.

Donna Mizerek

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

No, sorry...by the time police arrive it is too late and I can't afford to lose my child-can you afford to lose yours?? Put armed Veterans( they know best how to protect!) at the schools! It's the only way to protect our precious children!

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Davie

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Ask these geniuses why New Jersey residents cannot purchase stun guns for their own personal safety maybe that would discourage more from obtaining firearms.

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Alex C

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This is a great idea. I would go even further in terms of infrastructure improvements. Why not outfit the schools with bulletproof glass. Our federal buildings currently have such measures, why not schools. I believe our school buildings should be physically just as as strong as any federal building.

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Ridgewood Mom

11:33 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

Yes. And lock down procedures.

XJS

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Great idea until the kids know where they are and decide for spontaneous recess. Cameras on the buttons would deter that, I think.

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Numbercruncher1

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

...that will cost a lot of money and not do a darn thing. So let me get this straight the killer enters the school with a gun. The school buzzes him/her(less likely) in. The student then takes out his pistol shoots the person at the point of entry. After hearing gun shots an admin/principleLet me repeat/etc... with a phone will hit the silent alarm button. In ten minutes the cops will be there. In ten minutes how many will be dead? Look the only thing that could have saved SOME of those kids at Sandy Hook, Colmbine or VA tech would have been ARMED and TRAINED security. Yes it requires guns! You can ban all the guns in the guns in the world, criminals will find them (that's why they are criminals). Ban clips with more than 10 bullets, the criminals will carry multiple clips. Its not that hard.

In my opinion, the Principal, Vice Principal and two other professionals at a school need to carry a weapon on themselves and be trained. Training should be incorporated within the states Police Academies. Where the principal is out of the school a police officer should be present. If such a strategy is instituted two things will happen 1.) there will be no gun violence at such school (as the school is no longer an EASY target 2.) If there is violence such violence will be minimized.

Talks about silent alarms, banning guns are feel good solutions which do nothing!

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Sick of the trolls

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

You know, for a guy calling himself "numbercruncher1," I have to wonder if you actually can do math. Which do you think will cost the taxpayer more: a panic button to the police station or an armed police officer patrolling the halls of every school in a district? Even arming the principal or vice principal will cost us money; money for training, money for more insurance, money because do you really think that an educator is going to take that kind of risk and responsibility without asking for (and deserving) more? So please, how does your argument that a panic button will cost too much jive with your plan to have armed personnel in the schools?

Oh, and for the record, Columbine HAD an armed officer on the premises, for all the good that did.

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Ridgewood Mom

4:57 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Sick of the trolls,
The thing is that the money spent on panic buttons won't properly go where it rightfully belongs, in the pockets of the gun industry. :)

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A. Gideon

5:37 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

"Oh, and for the record, Columbine HAD an armed officer on the premises, for all the good that did."

Another couple of facts for the mix: Lougher was stopped during a reload phase. One person grabbed the magazine; another hit him in the head with a chair. Had Lanza been forced to reload more often, there's a fair chance that the same fate would have overtaken him (given that some adults were killed heading toward rather than away from him).

It's also noteworthy that one of the people that stopped Lougher was almost shot by some armed citizen coming to "help".

...Andrew

Unfunded Mandate

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Great idea, but like many of these thoughts from legislators, who is going to pay for it
?

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esther

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Hey unfunded- you tell me - how much is one child's life worth?

milly

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Panic buttons? How about a trigger button. As the head of NRA said "it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun"....waiting for the police, who are the good guys with guns, even if 2 mins will result in deaths. Arm the schools!!!

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Ricky

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Sure, arm the schools with unqualified people with weapons in their hands who've never made it through the academy or had the proper training to make split second decisions on who's really the bad guy among that group of scared kids running in all directions.

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Carl C

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

"principal shoots student (or students relative) after mistaking them for intruder"
thats the headline you will see if we arm thousands of principals/ vice principals.

i wouldnt take the NRA looking out for our protection too seriously, you know who spends millions to make it illegal to carry knives for personal protection... the NRA. and thats because they want people to spend their money on guns not knives. NRA doesnt care about your safety or your childs safety, they care about MONEY

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Ridgewood Mom

11:38 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

A person with a gun is not the only thing that will stop a person with a gun. In the case of a school or other large institutional building, solid brick walls with steel locks and a lock down system will also do the trick much neater. Accompany this with a panic button that alerts the police directly and you will have a safer environment then you would with people carrying guns around the school.

Cathy Stieve

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

A friend of mine and I were recently discussing what a great idea this would be. What can we do to help get it done?

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Daniel Churco

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

That is a good idea. It should also lock all Classroom doors (Still allow exiting, and doors should be bullet proof) Notify Teachers somehow in classrooms, as well as notify the police.

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Ryan

7:14 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

only problem with that is what if they deed to get out?

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Ridgewood Mom

11:40 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

A good lock does system can be designed with emergency exit unlock mechanisms in place. The lock down process can be practiced simply, just as in a fire drill.

clyde donovan

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Big over-reaction and a waste of taxpayers' money. If there's a problem, pick up a phone and call the police.

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mrvrnj421

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Now there is a sensible idea...it would be a good start

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Music Gal

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

That is very good thinking, as long as the alarm couldn't be "cut" or tampered with - the technology selected should not be publicized.

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slavica

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I hope they do, its an excellent idea!

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mrszzano

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Now this is something that's do-able...relatively inexpensive, and quickly installed. The armed guards/gun control arguments could drag on for a long time, and meanwhile, no one's doing anything. Thank you, Assemblyman Caputo.

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Steven Troy

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Absolutly necessary this should be fed law and funded no reason any school should not be able to have this simple technology that would enhance Saftey in our schools for our kids. This is something that should be done immediately without all the procrastination!

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Steven Troy

9:00 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

They should use the money that was just taken out of every single working man and woman's PAYCHECK.

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Edward P. Campbell

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

How about putting 911 on speed dial? There's your button!

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John Santaella

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Does 911 not work anymore? Another example of a full time legislator wanting to get his name in the paper shooting from the hip.

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bklynborn

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I am not sure about this panic button idea but I do think a police substation outside each of our schools is necessary for the safety of our children. Yes, I know it will take money to make this happen, but we have so many generous and concerned parents in New Milford that nothing is impossible when it comes to the well being of our kids. Services such as electrical and construction materials, just to name a few, could be donated and volunteers would be plentiful for such a good cause. Our High School SRO has been placed closer to the school entrance but our Middle School SRO has been relocated to the second floor due to construction work. We were told that "both" of these SRO's were "strategically" placed in the schools after the recent tragedy at Sandy Hook. Well, unless a killer is climbing thru a second floor window at the DEO MS the new location of our SRO is useless to all.

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LVMom

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

the preschool i taught at had them.. great idea, we also had code words and panic code announcements that no one would ever guess.

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DMAB6395

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I like the idea. Having worked in a bank for 2 years, I felt safe knowing that I had a button right there to push in case anything happened. For those that knock it you should learn more about it before you rule it out. There were some people on here who think the kids will make false alarms, if you put it under the teacher's desk where their legs go but not where a leg could hit it like they do in the bank there will not be a problem, plus the fact you don't tell the kids where it is. With the right training which is not that hard to comprehend it would be a effective tool. It may not be the complete answer but it's a good start. Gun control will be the ideal answer but you should really learn more about this before you "pooh-pooh" it away

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Brian Hurrel

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Having worked in urban schools for six years, I ccan say with some degree of certainty that the kids will know exactly where the buttons are within two days of the installation.

Ryan

7:14 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

how about doing something about the mentally unstable people in our country?

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Edward P. Campbell

7:51 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Someone doesn't know what he governs. Our 911 system already does that. All the schools need to do is program their phones to speed dial 911. Once a call is connect to 911, police are dispatched regardless if there is a caller on the other end or not! They also know it came from a school.

Besides I don’t think the outcome at Sandy Hook would have been any different if they had a panic button or not.

We need to spend our money and make laws that are effective. The absolute best way to do that now is to make all States a Must Issue State, not a Can Issue (which means NO) like here and in Ct. There is no magic; we can’t wave a magic wand and wish guns away. Also, limiting the amount of bullets a gun can use is as stupid as Bloomberg’s Big Soda Ban. Think about it!!!! It means if a shooter wants more ammo, he’ll have to carry more guns. That means if one of them malfunctions, then thanks to government regulations he’ll have a few others to fall back on.

If Sandy Hook’s principal, or janitor had been armed, we may have been reading a story in the papers about a principal or janitor who saved a bunch of kids from a crazy man, instead of this tragic outcome!

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mrszzano

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

@Ryan, I'm ashamed of myself for not realizing that the fire alarm would indeed bring everyone out into the hall. I've been through enough fire drills in 24 years...I should have known. Good thinking!

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William Mays

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

I've seen schools with phones leading to the police department or emergency office in each classroom before. Private schools of course. Completely implementable in public schools.

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DMAB6395

12:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Edwrard P. Campbell-since this idea was given to the Assemblyman by the POLICE I think they would know a better way for them to get there than anyone else.

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Andy Schmidt

10:01 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

At our school, certain personnel carries alarm fobs to notify police. A generic 911 call might just be for someone requiring an ambulance after having been hurt during gym - activating the "panic" alarm fob will draw an entirely different response.

Yes, the "fire alarm before/during active shooter" scenario needs to be thought through and practiced at schools.

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mmk

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I can't believe how worried people are about the cost of possibly saving an innocent child's life!!! If we were talking about their material possessions then that would be a different story. Also the idea of armed vets or police is a double edged sword. I talked about this with my sons principal. Yes we would have someone who is trained to protect and serve...but who's to say they don't crack up one day and decide to take it out on our kids. I'm just sick to my stomach about all of this...it certainly isn't a fun time to be a parent.

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Stacey

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Good idea??!! Am I missing something? How would a panic button have prevented Adam Lanza from killing 26 people at Newtown school? C' mon people...THINK!

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Tomasina Schwarz

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Another dumb idea. This is the age of technology-teacher's (smart, cell) phones could just be permitted in the classroom. In many schools that I have visited, I notice that there are no working phones in the classroom, no way to contact the office except an antiquated lever that connects the teacher to the main office. If we don't have updated communication systems in the classroom already, how will a button help? So silly. This legislator obviously has no idea what the average classroom resources are and he must not have a cell phone.

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I'd-Rather-Be-at-63

5:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Does this kind of discussion really benefit our children? Does it make them more secure? Or does this discussion simply not lead to more copy-cat irrational killings.

We can all ensure our phones are able to speed-dial 911. We can give every administrator and every teacher a panic button. We can put a policeman or armed veteran or armed parent in every school, every classroom, on every corner. We can put bulletproof glass in all school doors and windows. We can put a police sub-station in front of every school with a huge sign: "Beware Crazy Shooters, Police!"

None of these actions are likely to actually stop or even significantly deter an angry Montclair 16-year old armed with semi-automatic weapons, hand guns, and anything else dad and mom might have in the home arsenal to ensure their constitutional rights.

We should reflect more on what kind of a society we want to live in and what kind of an environment we want our children to grow up in. Rather than investing in a culture of fear and militarism, monies that go to our schools should be used to teach our children to act responsibly, no matter how disjointed their week has been, no matter how angry they are.

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Sick of the trolls

11:48 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Oh dear. I have soiled myself again. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can avoid this but still maintain my high fiber diet?

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