Should Public School Districts Pay for Private School Busing?
The state requires public school districts to pay the transportation costs for students attending private and parochial schools.
New Jersey public school districts have been paying to bus parochial and private school students for years.
News reports put the annual cost at $77 million a year for about 90,000 students of religious and other private schools, money that comes out of local budgets funded by property taxes.
According to The Asbury Park Press, districts are required "to spend up to $884 on transportation for each student attending a private school, be it on a school bus or a parent driving the child to class." The state is one of only a handful that pay for private-school busing, with 34 banning all public funding for private schooling.
Patch wants to know what you think. Respond to our poll and offer your thoughts in the comment section below.
For a closer look at South Orange - Maplewood's transportation costs, click here.
Noreen Brunini
4:13 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
The parents who send their children to private school are taxpayers and they don't use the public schools. Its my understanding this was decided by a court case and the court felt these taxpayers were entitled to have this educational expense covered. Its not up to the general public to decide the issue.
Sarah Magurie
7:45 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I have paid my taxes year after year. No problem with that. In my school tax payament is a specific amount set aside for transportation. Just let them return that amount to me and you can keep the rest.
mona vos
11:53 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
The state needs to continue to allow private schools supplimentary funding in what ever form allowable, and look into new ways to benefit private school children whose parents are looking to raise them in a better environment than their public schools can provide.
Sanchez
8:13 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
I agree with you 100%. It is a family decision if you want your child to go too private or public school, however I'm paying high amount in taxes and my kids don't even attend public school, so I wonder I'm paying for for somebody else expenses. Well if thats the case than lower my taxes and I'll drive the kids my self to school.
TMQ
12:21 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
I completely agree! We pay taxes just like everyone else in our town and private or parochial school children should be afforded the same transportation to education as public school children. It is all or nothing - all children of tax paying families should receive the same busing. Think of it this way, the only thing the private schoolers 'take' from the town is busing - no teachers' salaries, no extra books or materials, etc. There are less kids requiring public funding and all the families are asking is for busing. How dare someone say I pay taxes and am paying to bus another child to a private school. Shame on you, especially with children!
Joan R. Foote
10:01 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
The Public School Districts are not paying for the transportation of the private/parochial school students--the taxpaying parents of those students are. Those parents are also saving the districts thousands of dollars per student by educating their children in non-public schools. Should a poll be taken asking if the parents of non-public students deserve a rebate on their taxes for not using local public education? That would be a better question or at least not as absurd as the one being polled.
Sandra G.
8:38 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Completely agree with your points.
Sarah Magurie
7:48 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I just found out another bit of information. In 2010 Gov. Christie signed the Choice School Program Law. However, it doesn't count if your child is in a priviate/parochial school. I've just contact the ACLU about discrimination against non-public school students.
Christina Cipully
9:26 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Amen to That! I have also been paying taxes for the last 9 years to the public schools and sending my child to private school. Lets add that up - that would have helped with the tution. So lets open that pandoras box!
Joel Taylor
8:45 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
So well Put, thank you for that!
Catholic School Mom
11:04 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Absolutely, Joan!
Allan Wright
11:38 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Joan, you are RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
D. Mooney
6:17 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Agreed!!! Thank you, Joan!
Lisa Kelly
1:07 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Not only should they be footing the bill for school transportation, but every child in a non public school whose parents pay taxes should also be entitled to any other benefits a public school child has such as one on one aides, extra help, technology in the classrooms, etc. I can go on!
Linda Cerino
6:02 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Bravo!
D. Mooney
6:20 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
You are so right, Lisa, and let's include a second set of textbooks to that list. In my township (Bernards) public school students are issued a second set of textbooks at no charge to the families. It comes out of the taxes that ALL township residents pay. But if you're at a non-public school and you want a second set of textbooks, you pay for them!
CKW
8:47 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012
Amen! And yet when all children were receiving the statewide flu vaccination a year+ back, the NBC School District refused and when a bunch of us Catholic and private school parents went to the school board to fight it, an ignorant school boarch member had the nerve to ask why the school should pay for our children's vaccination? Meanwhile the districts where both my child (grammar and high school levels) schools reside vaccinated my children. Not my own district where I pay over $10K in taxes - the largest chunk to school taxes. Right on Sarah - with the proposal to pay for the transportation portion of the school taxes and return to us the portion of school taxes we do not use!
Ryan13
2:26 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
$15,000 in property taxes of which most goes to public school budgets. For someone to complain about $877 busing cost is ridiculous! The Asbury Park Press is wrong for printing one side of the story. Is someone sending me a rebate for $14,000? Or is the money being wasted on over inflated school budgets and Abbett School Distrcts???
cocerned parent
7:32 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
You said it. Where is our cut from the taxes we pay and is used for public schools. We get nothing...... Not even a student rebate. The problem is we dont have enough people giving their comments. The goverment just keeps taking. Some people who are sending their children to private schools are havbing a hard time also,it doesnt mean we are rich, we are looking for it to be better for our children and i will say this it is a better education verses being in a public school. where is our rebate they are getting our donation thou......
Millie Porpora
3:15 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Millie P.
What would the public school system do if all these children who are getting bussed were in the public school system? Parents do not get a rebate for not using the public school system but yet pay high taxes for schools in their town. Yes, towns should provide bussing if they bus the public school children - all children should be treated equal.
Linda Cerino
6:01 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Public school parents get the best of both worlds....they get money from private school parents without the cost.....a double whammy to those parents who never used the public school system. We are bussing CHILDREN...does not matter what school they attend. And, being from Newark, would someone do something with the intellectual who decides to give bus tickets to elementary school students??????? If that is the case, at least give passes to parents too. What parent would allow a young child travel a bus alone????? And, another thing, students in nonpublic schools should get at least half of what is allotted to public schools. Let us decide where our taxpayer money goes
Marcey
7:38 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
The public schools are not paying for my kids to be bussed I AM! My property taxes are 14k a year. That is on a very modest home. It is the least they can do for what I pay. How about this? I will pay for my kids busing if you refund my 14K back to me. Deal? Ha, I didn't think so.
Sandra G.
8:40 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
You are right on the money.
Danielle from whippany
9:30 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Given that my tax dollars pay for the education of public school students, at the least private abs parochial busses should be paid for without question! It is a very reasonable expense for the districts since we are paying for public education and not taking advantage of it.
dcb08
6:54 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Not only do I pay $14k in property taxes of which most goes to the public school system which I don't use, I don't even get a bus for my child to her parochial school because we are .2 miles short of the cutoff - and I get no rebate of any KIND!!! So, this is such a stupid question - of course public schools should pay for the busing - what do they do with all the taxes paid by parents who don't use their school system????
Inno
7:06 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
You all have taken the words right out of my mouth!!! If they want to refund me for my public school education taxes that I pay and don't take advantage of then I would be glad to pay for transportation. If not FORK IT OVER!!!!
Carol G.
7:06 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
We pay school taxes and don't use the system, the least we should get is transportation. The public school children do.
Grace
8:22 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
HEY I work 2 full time jobs to send n my children to private school ! I provide their transportation which adds 1 hour to my morning commute. The transportation reimbursement does not even cover my gas expense! How about a tax rebate for sending our kids to private school ??? STOP BREAKING OUR BACKS !
J. Hollingsworth
9:19 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I pay over $22,000 a year in property taxes. The last tax summary I received indicated more than 50% of those taxes going to the public school system. Since I'm paying more than $11,000 to the public schools and not sending my children there, it is not the public schools who are paying for my children's busing to private school - I am paying $11,000 for the busing! Does that sound reasonable? If my kids were in the public school system, they would be bused anyway AND they would be using all the additional resources of the schools.
Jennifer R.
10:08 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
I couldnt agree more with everyones comments!!!! I pay $14.000 a year in taxes and almost $20,000 in tuition for my children and receive Nothing in return from the public school system other than busing! In addition to that, I have to drive my children several miles to their busstop while the public school children are picked up in front of their homes. They call this courtesy busing??Like they are doing me a big favor! I think we should all enroll our children in the public school system and see the panic that sets in when they realize they suddenly have this huge population of students they hadnt budgeted for!! If the public school parents saw how much their taxes would increase to have to provide an education for our children, the busing costs would certainly seem like a bargain in comparison!
Hedley
11:28 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Don't forget, it is largely the public school system, not the private schools, that drives the value of your home. No one told you to move to an affluent area with great public schools and send your kids to private school. So yes, the public schools are paying to bus your kids to private school and that is absurd.
Sophie
8:20 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Hi Hedley -- I know exactly what you mean. It's like going to one of those all-you-can-eat buffet restaurants for $39.95 and only have a cup of jello. You can't blame the restaurant that your jello cost $39.95.
DVG
12:45 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Private and parochial school families pay the same taxes you do, Hedley, and it is commonly known the majority of tax dollars go to the public school system, hence we should receive SOME benefit from those tax dollars paid. Busing is a mere drop in the bucket If on the other hand we were given some sort of credit towards our choice of education, you would have arguement. And I suppose senior citizens with empty nests are supposed to bankroll your kids as well?
Venture Guy
12:11 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Talk about a bargain....each kids that goes to a private school saves the district $15000!!! Personally I think there should be voucher of 7500(1/2 the cost)-$10,000 per kids to send them to a private school. Our property taxes would sink like a stone. With a voucher people could make a decision where to send their kids...heck good public schools could then even supplement their school extra capacity with surrounding kids! Then the best run school would grow and thrive and the lesser would shrink allowing them to focus resources on the remaining kids and get it right.
mozeyrn
9:47 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Busing isn't an option for my daughter who is attending a non-public school. We live 4 miles from school and need to be at the bus stop at 7:05am for an 8am start time. She isn't even having breakfast at 7:05a let alone be at a bus stop! The money that was paid out to me for driving my kid to school when there was no busing paid for most of her summer camp expenses! Busing doesn't help my family at all!!
CKW
8:58 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012
I'm sorry to hear that, but the law states "..provide busing or provide payment in lieu of transportation. " I realize some parents desire the check, but some parents desire the bus. Either way, taxes pay for this and we are entitled to it.
Tom R
10:27 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Nice try Hedley, but the school systems got their good reputation by the incredible amounts of money funding them from high taxes. The school system did not become great on its own. But nice try at reverse logic.
Hedley
11:04 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
What came first the chicken or the egg? Did anyone move into a town that didn't have a school system and was there to start one from scratch on the back of their high taxes? No, of course not. You moved where you moved already knowing the reputation of the school system and had a good idea of the taxes you would be paying relative to other communities. So nice try yourself.
Catholic School Mom
11:01 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Hedley, Sophie (and all others of the similar mindset)... the public school system does not pay for busing my child to parochial school. My TAXES do!! Why is that so hard to understand?
Hedley
11:04 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
It is the public school system that is cutting the check.
Sophie
2:18 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Hedley -- If we are talking chicken and egg here, then Catholic School Mom has a point. After all, without the tax dollars, the public schools wouldn't even have the money in their coffers to even cut the check. So the chicken (or the egg) really starts with Catholic School Mom paying her taxes.
mareceymorgan@ymail.com
7:38 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
I totally agree Catholic school mom. And to those that think 14k in taxes means a great school system think again. I do pay for the busing and they get several thousand over that amount. The public schools squander enough of my taxes. Busing is the least I should get.
Catholic School Mom
11:09 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
But the tax-paying parents provide the funds that enable the public school system to write those checks. Something to ponder.... Have a great day!!
Peter Vescera
8:15 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Parents of private school children pay taxes for the public schools with no rebates.
This poll is pointless.
However; I will gladly pay for my own child's busing if you refund the portion of my tax that pays for public schools.
Let's have a poll on that Hank!
Mark Mansfield
9:39 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Spot on Peter! Where do I sign this petition?
Hedley
12:01 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012
That's fine. But first please refund the portion of my taxes that goes to the fire department as I had no need for them this year.
mareceymorgan@ymail.com
7:41 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
Hedley your point doesn't make sense. There is no way my kids will ever use public schools. Don't want my kids going somewhere where there are fights in the hallways every day. But the fire department is something you may need one day. I hope that no one ever has to use it but you never know. God bless our fireman. By the way, in my district they are volunteer. So my taxes don't even go to the them but I would gladly pay it.
Mark Mansfield
9:40 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
The thought of revoking this service is selfish, unjust, greedy and downright unneighborly.
Shame on the miserable souls who believe this to be fair. This valuable service is a right, not to be reserved only for those children who are privileged by attending our public schools.
CKW
9:17 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012
To equate school taxes to municipal taxes for fire, police and emergency services is just ignorant. God forbid Hedley be given the right to elect out of these emergency services and his/her family/property need them. To bus or provide payment in lieu of transportation is peanuts compared to the thousands and thousands of dollars school districts save in not having to educate my children.
Hedley
1:43 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012
So pick something else. Either way it is a service I don't use just like you and the public schools so I should be entitled to a rebate for everything I don't use.
The big difference is that the public schools that you don't use still benefit your property value and the desirability of the town you moved to. No one is moving to a particular town because their fire department is ranked by U.S. News & World Report.
Sophie
6:34 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012
Hi CKW -- You'll have to excuse Hedley's edge. He/she is the self proclaimed protector of the children (and computers) of Millburn. Evidently, that children protector thing doesn't extend to protecting the private school kids -- just the public school kids. :-(
Hi Hedley -- I agree with your rationale as to why you deserve a rebate from the town for not using the fire department. Maybe there is a way of making a request from the fire department to not respond in the event there is a fire at your home (kind of like a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate)). That way you'll be able to legitimately request a rebate for not needing the fire department's services.
Nancy
8:42 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012
I'm a student and at least I haven't never seen any bullies in my private school life.. you know what i mean,,,
Nancy
8:43 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012
I'm a student and at least I have never seen any bullies in my private school life.. you know what i mean,,,
Henny Penny
12:24 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
US News and World Report 2012 NJ state public high school rankings:
Elizabeth, Chatham, Ridge, Princeton......12th place MIllburn. Hedley said "The big difference is that the public schools that you don't use still benefit your property value and the desirability of the town you moved to". Did Hedley put her property on the market yet?
MDK
12:04 pm on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
If this was the ranking of public and private schools...Millburn would be ranked dismally low due to all the private schools that would rank ahead of many of these highly ranked public schools. Many public schools wouldn't even be in the top ranked high schools!!!
Clarice N Doctor
8:21 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I feel that if we are paying the taxes for school then that money should go towards the funding for where my child goes to school. Meaning if you are sending your child to public then your tax dollars should go towards public, If your child goes to private then your dollars should go towards private. Personally I think it if I pay my taxes and my child isn't going to benefit from it. I want a refund on ALL my tax dollars that goes towards public school. ALL OF IT!!! I am tired of the system getting over.
julia
4:19 pm on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I realize that sending my children to private school is my choice, and I usually shut up and pay and vote yes for my towns over-inflated and wasteful school budget...but now it is time for someone else to shut up and stop griping about the $850 they pay for busing. My child would be bused to our local public school anyway. How about someone saying "thank you" for paying taxes and not sending your child to the public schools. Let's all go to our local Board of Ed and register our private school children in public school next year. Let's see them gladly give us the $850 !
Hedley
12:36 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Since when do we live in a pay as you go/a la carte tax system? If you send your kids to private school (and congratulations to you for being able to afford to do so) why should you be entitled to any rebate of taxes just because you chose to opt out of public schooling? There are loads of municipal and county services that I don't utilize so should I get tax money back for those? Assuming the answer is no, why then, should opting out of public schools be any different?
KLF
10:29 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Agree with Hedley. It's akin to purchasing all your books at Barnes & Noble instead of using the public library. If I decide to buy books instead of borrowing them from a publicly funded source, do I get a refund of my portion of taxes that go toward the Millburn Public LIbrary? And what about the town pool? If I join a country club instead of using the Millburn town pool, do I get a rebate? Then there's the matter of the town day camp. I've always sent my kids to private camps, so maybe I should ask for a refund for my portion of taxes that goes toward funding the Millburn summer camp. And Millburn Recreation ... my kids play on private club teams, like the Millburn Soccer Club. They don't participate in Millburn Rec soccer. I know my taxes are funding Millburn Rec, but I don't use it.
KLF
10:33 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Point is ... all these things -- including public education -- are public goods. Even if you don't use them, they exist for the benefit of the public as a whole. The public funds public schools so that we will have an educated society. And that benefits everyone. That's what you are paying for.
KLF
10:39 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Those whose goal is to have as low a tax bill as possible need to consider buying homes in a different community. You can live in a lower-tax community and still send your children to the same private schools they go to now.