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Too Many Teapot Despots in Little League

Yesterday at Gero Park I witnessed a 45-year-old team manager argue vehemently with a 16-year-old umpire about a foul ball in a baseball game for 9 year olds.

The embarassing event ended with a toss of a clipboard and the players on his team leaning up against the fence in the dugout chanting. "Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!"

Something is very wrong with this picture. This is my first year at Gero park. My kid is 8. But I have heard more yelling and criticism of children and umpires in the past 10 weeks then I hear at MLB games.

We don't tolerate our children talking back to the umps...why do we tolerate it from team managers?

Young kids who play baseball are trying their best under intense scrutiny, and yet, repeatedly, over-zealous base coaches invariably shout criticisms.  

What is it about a fully grown adult that celebrates the idea of making somebody much smaller than them feel even smaller?

MSHYB needs to rid itself of the teapot despots who pollute Gero Park with their complete loss of perspective and fixation on the scoreboard.

There are lots of great parents, managers, coaches, etc., who always do the right thing; who encourage kids, who pick them up when they fall and applaud them for doing their best even if they boot a grounder or strike out swinging.

As for the teapot despots? There should be zero tolerance for this kind of poor role-modeling, anti-social conduct and just plain bullying.

When kids leave the Little League field despondent or crying or mimicking this bad behavior, the entire league has failed in its duty to do what Little League is supposed to do -- to teach kids life skills, good sportsmanship and the idea that sometimes calls go with us, sometimes against. The best we can do is drive on and try to get the next one.

So...next time you see an adult shouting at a teenager in front of a bunch of kids...how about this as a response...

"Pick on somebody your own size!!"

J S Beckerman

3:38 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Agreed. My son umped several years back...said some coaches and parents in the stands were verbally abusive.

When a parent of a player or team coach yells at a 9th grader, something is amiss.

That coach should be removed as a coach for 3 games and the parent of the player banned from attending for 3 games.

Millburn [travel] soccer allows a field ref to require an offending coach or parent to leave the field...continued problems will result in permanent barring from games.

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Steve Stone

4:01 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

I have been a Manager in Millburn Short Hills Youth Baseball for 8 years. The situation you discribed should not be tolerated. I do see an occasional over zealuos coach, but I believe it is a very rare occurance to have a coach yelling at an umpire. I have been extremely happy with my association with MSHYB and my kids have loved going through the program.
Please report this incident to a league official and they will take it very seriously.

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Karen Ferrer

7:39 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

My son umpired a Level 1 game a few weeks back and was verbally abused by the team manager. The abuse continued while he waited in line at the snack bar at the completion of the game by the mothers of the same Level I team. I encourage him to seek the guidance of the Officer of the Day the next time he experiences a similiar situation. My older son will no longer umpire because of the abuse he experienced while umpiring at Gero. Unfortunately, this is the norm rather than the exception.

MCheeks

5:18 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

I agree with Matt Stewart wholeheartedly. This is my second year as a certified coach in the league and while a team of 9,10 and 11 year old boys can be trying, it is the adults that make the whole little league experience almost unbearable. If my kid didn't love to play (much to his lacrosse coaching father's chagrin), I would gladly avoid Gero Park. -Marisa Christmas

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MCheeks

5:25 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Caveat....."almost unbearable some days".....

J. Keogh

7:20 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Thank you to Matt Stewart for taking the time to write about the experience. Last year during a play off game parents witnessed a chain manager (also an Officer of Day on occasion as a board member) come out of the dugout during the innings and "coach" (and try to intimidate) a 15 or 16 year old ump. He continued to do this throughout the game, not happy with the calls made for his kid's team. A parent brought this up to the player advocate and it was brought to the attention of the board as it was in complete violation of the MSHYB by-laws. Guess what? Several board members verbally agreed that the manager was in violation and it was not in the spirit of MSHYB, but nothing was done. By the way, (not surprising) his kid's team won the game by one run and he walked away having accomplished what was most important to him, bringing his team one game closer to become champs. All the board needed to do was ask the teen ump about how the chain manager interacted with him during the game to get an answer, however, instead they opted to do nothing. (How can the MSHYB board ignore the rules even if one of their own violates them?). Lots of interested players leave the league because they feel the parents take the fun out of it. I agree there are lots of good, positive interactions going on too (and dedicated, fair coaches) yet, zero tolerance for the inappropriate ones must be the standard.

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J. Keogh

7:49 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Also, I should mention that that same weekend I heard a coach shout at one of his male players, "stop throwing like a girl!". What made it feel so so bad was that he said it in front of my friend's 4th grade daughter and another female player (both on this coach's team). Not a good moment.

Jersey

10:08 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Good article, Matt Stewart ~~ Our kids learn more by our actions than our words. But those hurtful and angry words speak volumes too! We're setting examples for proper behavior .. .if we bully, so will our kids. What if these sad situations are those that "make the memory" for kids who played MSHYB ? Thank you to all those readers here who commented on this situation.

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Hedley

10:23 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

While I'm sure the behavior was inappropriate, one solution is to stop having children umpiring the games. Most simply can't handle it and/or don't receive proper training. The umpiring this year has been absolutely atrocious. Kids don't know the rules, aren't expected to enforce certain rules and/or can't keep track of the game. Add to all of that frustrated coaches, players and fans and it is a disaster waiting to happen. All levels should have professional umpires (like Level 7 does) and that would minimize the incidents.

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Nantz

10:55 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

You Hedley, are the exact type of person who needs to remove himself from Gero Park. For years, M/SH Little League has employed teenagers as umps. It was my first job, ever and I loved it except for the heckling parents. It taught responsibility, manners, multitasking, public speaking and the list goes on and on. You are taking little league way too seriously if you really took the time to write that the umpiring has been atrocious and thinking it's a disaster waiting to happen. I think you should stay home this weekend and watch MLB baseball and yell at the umps on the TV instead of making ridiculous comments like that. Get real!

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Hedley

11:19 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

When you have umpires who regularly can't keep track of balls and strikes, don't know the rules and cannot maintain a consistent strike zone (even one where a ball that sails over a child's head is routinely called a strike), there is a problem. There are a few kids who do a decent job, but most that I have seen do not. When you have kids walk away from home plate nearly in tears after being called out on strike three that was over their head, it is understandable, but not excusable, why that would drive parents and coaches nuts. The fact that you were able to handle umpiring is great for you. Maybe they were better trained back in your day. They aren't well trained now.

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Matt Stewart

11:57 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Hedley...our job as parents is to support the umpires...who are kids themselves...it's Little League...everyone is there to learn...including the umps...that is why we have teenagers umping 8 year olds...so everyone on the diamond can get the chance to learn from experience and yes make mistakes...Little League is about making mistakes and learning through trial and error...as coaches/parents our job is to shepherd these kids...not put them under a microscope...professional umps for 8/9 year olds is silly...my experience with the Level 2 umps is great...they are nice kids...who are learning to gain their confidence and who try their best on every play...even if their batting average is 50/50...that's okay by me...bcuz law of averages...it will all come out in the wash in the end...as a coach...I feel responsible for ensuring they have a fun experience too...so...suffice it to say...maybe there is a philosophical gap at play here...who knows?

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Hedley

12:31 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

At Level 2, balls and strikes aren't being called and if a ball is hit, there is a limit on how many bases the batter can take, etc. There is very little for an umpire to do at that level so if you want to have kids do it that is fine. As you go up the ladder, the quality (or lack thereof) of umpiring is simply unfair to the kids.

Go play Fall Ball in Union where they have professional umps at all levels, including 8 year olds, and you will see little to no issues between parents and umpires. I simply think that it is no coincidence that the better umpiring minimizes the issues between parents, coaches, umpires, etc.

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Sophie

9:44 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Hi Hedley -- You really are saying terrible things about the teenage umpires at these games. After all, they are our children too and, as we all know, you are the self proclaimed protector of the children of Millburn. I'm certain that even those scoundrels at We Love Millburn wouldn't treat our children like this.

Nantz

10:50 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

I have ump'd for Millburn Little League in the past and can attest that the worst part of the league is the parents who decide not to be role models for their children. Kids can miss balls, umps can miss calls, but handle the situation like an adult and not a heckling hooligan. Remember, the purpose of little league is for the kids to have fun. At the end of the day, that's all that matters and if parents cannot behave like adults and supporters, they shouldn't be allowed at the diamond.

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Nantz

10:57 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

I forgot to say great article, Matt. You hit the nail right on the head. Great points and views.

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J S Beckerman

11:19 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Umping is tough. Every coach and manager should ump a game so they can realize that it is a difficult, thankless task. I had to ump a Level 1 team years back and a few moms screamed at me for possibly missing a close call at 1B.

Managers and coaches should also be responsible for the actions of the parents of their players and should be confident enough to tell a parent to be quiet or hit the road.

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skipT

12:01 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Kudos to Matt Stewart for this thoughtful and spot on article. We are losing quality kids and entire families because of all the poor bahavior and sportsmanship displayed by a few bad apples on the field. Simple solution. The league should institute a zero tolerance policy. Argue with an umpire or another coach you are gone. Maybe these coaches who can't control themselves will think twice about opening their mouth. Let's clean up this despicable behavior once and for all and restore civility and good sportsmanship to our outstanding community.

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Clayton King

12:23 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Great article Matt Stewart, I umpired games as a teenager and felt overwhelmed by parents and coaches. Now coaching my son, I have a greater understanding for our youth trying their best. We all have to remember that we're, more than likely, not coaching future professional baseball players. We are coaching future men and women.

Susan DelGreco

1:32 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

My son plays for the "highest level" within the MSHYB system and as such his teams employ adult umpires. The problem is not the umpires. The real problem is the coaches! More than a few of the coaches are overzealous, abusive bullies. For example, last Saturday my son twisted his ankle while warming up for "an important game". When I arrived at Gero, he He was in tears. I ran for an ice pack from the snack bar and applied it to his swollen ankle. There were three (3) coaches standing by and they did absolutely nothing for their injured player! When I attempted to escort my son from the dugout, the coaches refused to let him go. The lead coach screamed at me..."I coach football..I'm tough!" He demanded that his players be "tough". My son stayed for that game but I have since withdrawn him from the League.

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Susan1

1:47 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

The problem is that the leadership of MSHYB is unwilling to set a code of behavior and **enforce** it. Until that happens, some parents will continue to abuse, bully, and taunt on the ball field.

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07041

10:23 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

I have been involved with the MSHYB for many years. Overall, the coaching and parenting is very good. I am currently coaching at a lower level and had very positive experiences with all 8 teams. Over the years I have seen a few bad apples that needed to be addressed (I have witnessed and addressed a few adults after going after a kid ump). I tell the kids that umpires will likely make several "wrong" calls each game - but they are doing their best. In general, most coaches are volunteering to help kids learn the game and to learn to be good teammates. If there are issues, they can be addressed via the appropriate league channels. If you see bad behavior, say something. Be a good role model and it will be good for all. The "tone from the top" comes from parents and coaches. In general, the tone is very positive.

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Matt Stewart

7:26 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

I wish I could agree with your observations but I do not. Unfortunately, I think the incidence of unsportsmanlike conduct on the part of coaches and managers is pervasive...and that the league does not have an appropriate policy framework to root it out. An 8 year old child on my team was suspended for a game for unsportsmanlike conduct. Managers and coaches are not subject to the same standards. My son plays travel soccer. Referees have the authority to eject parents and coaches for unsportsmanlike conduct. Step One - a warning. Step Two - your gone. I saw 3 parents ejected at a tournament this weekend. Why? Because the soccer leagues have figured it out. They will not tolerate this kind of toxic culture.

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Matt Stewart

7:31 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

In my view...all coaches should be forbidden from talking to an umpire to contest a call. Only the Team Manager should have this role. Any coach who argues with an umpire should be warned...then removed. Any Manager who talks to an umpire should do so to seek clarification. If they argue...they should be tossed...just like a Major League Hitter who argues balls and strikes. If a player, manager or coach are tossed after their one warning...they should be suspended for a game. If they repeat offend. 3 games. If they offend again...gone from managing/coaching. Too many people I see on the diamond think that the strategic objective of Little League is to win chamionships for their team or chain. I see it as something completely different. To me...Little League is a facility to teach children baseball fundamentals, life skills and above all else...to have a good time. Do you want to compete hard and try to win the game? Of course...but never at the expense of decorum and sportsmanship.

And this, I feel, is the elephant in the room that MSHYB needs to come to grips with.

Finally...Team Managers should also be charged with policing their team parents...with the authority to remove parents from the sidelines. Soccer teams have SAGE reps (Set A Good Example) who have the power to discipline parnets who act outside of the Code of Conduct. MSHYB is behind the curve on this issue v. other sports. I wish it were not the case...

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Hedley

9:12 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

This pretty much is the rule. Only the manager is supposed to speak to the umpires and only to seek claification of a rule interpretation.

Bottom line is that this is not a rec program. The only purpose of the chain system is to be ultra competitive and to win Family Day. Especially at the higher levels. Why else would Level 7 have professional umpires and some chains even have quasi-professional coaches who do not have kids in the system (or have kids at all). There is a reason why no one else does little league (actually, youth baseball - Google why) as a chain system. Google it and see if you can find any town in the U.S. with a similar system.

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JKH

2:25 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Yes Hedley but why is the culture so much saner in soccer?

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Hedley

11:19 am on Sunday, June 3, 2012

Because the games are run by adults and not children. You cannot expect children umpires to discipline parents in the stands. I have seen soccer referees do it, however.

Matt Stewart

7:39 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

I would agree...70% of the folks at Gero "get it"...but 30% do not...lose their heads...or obsess over winning...these are teapot despots the league needs to crack down upon...people who think Little League is their personal play room and their children...toy soldiers...to be moved around so that the Skipper can lay claim to VICTORY...heck...some of these guys actually do advanced scouting for the draft...is this not a signal that maybe it all gets taken a bit too seriously?

Anyway...that is my view...a view I plan to advance further with the league. judging by the reponses I have had the past two days. Most reasonable people seem to agree with what I have said here...maybe some heads need to roll for the culture to change? who knows? ty for your comment

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Hedley

9:17 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

The baseball program is largely run by people who no longer have kids in the system, or don't have kids at all. And yes, it is taken too seriously, but that is from the top down. As you go up the levels you will see this more and more. The league cares about three things: 1) Family Day; 2) Level 7; and 3) the summer teams.

KLF

7:03 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

The no-kids-in-the-system thing really irks me. I hated it when my kids had a chain manager whose kids had aged out 20 years ago. They should institute a rule that adult coaches, chain managers, and board members must resign five years after their youngest participating child has aged out. That would still leave room for more experienced leadership, but would ensure that MSHYB doesn't become an outlet for "adult children."

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Blanket Jackson

11:27 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Why is it "youth baseball" and not "little league"? I'm too lazy to google it. However, I'll wager the explanation reflects badly upon the people running it and their overall "vision" for baseball in this town is deeply flawed.

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Hedley

12:03 am on Friday, June 1, 2012

The baseball program is no longer affiliated with the official "Little League" and has instead joined the Cal Ripken League. The reason has something to do with how the former MSHLL was rostering certain summer all-star teams that resulted in some teams being banned from the Little League playoffs that could ultimately lead to the Little League World Series.

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20yearmiller

9:30 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Yes, that was a big stink. LL gave mshll the option to stay in LL if they would conform to the rules. The board decided they like their little private Idaho and opted to go a direction that would give them more control. That put an end to great rivalries like msh-livingston, etc. I don't know if they're transparent these days, but it used to be impossible to find out what happens to all the snack bar revenue, etc. Being private is a problem, but they just won't let go.

M OKeef

8:16 am on Friday, June 1, 2012

As there is so much disillusionment with this organization, why don't the unhappy player families ask the Rec Dept to set up a competing Little League? That way it would be like town soccer -- either you play Rec or Travel team or for some diehards, both. Everyone will know Travel is more cut throat and enroll accordingly.

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Steve Jeffers

2:51 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

I spent 25 years in MSHLL/MSHYB as a coach, manager, board member, player agent and travel team manager. Regarding all the comments above, "I've been there, done that" and "seen it all". What people forget or fail to recognize is that the program runs due to the efforts of a few hard working, dedicated and unselfish individuals. These civil servants provide the framework and the opportunity for as many as 700 children each year to participate in a team sport that creates life long memories and experiences. There will always be "over the top" parents and coaches. Focus on the positive and enjoy your time watching your kids play. It goes very fast.

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KLF

11:57 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Could it be, SJ, that you are too close to it to really "see" the problems?

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JKH

2:22 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Yes, but so does Millburn Soccer and let me tell you, the culture is significantly better in part due to the SAGE program.

My son and step son both played Little League and travel soccer. It did not take long for both boys to gravitate towards soccer. Why? Without articulating it, it was obvious they did not like the culture.

There are wonderful parents all over Millburn Twp and we are lucky that our entire town has so many people willing to step up and serve in volunteer positions. However--that has nothing to do with what Matt Stewart is writing about. It is a well known thing that MSHLL is a "tougher" and "more political" organization. Sorry to say it but take the blinders off and listen to all the commentary that has been written down.

Luckily, there is no "fire burning". Let's use this call to action to put some guidelines in place about behavior.

anniesez

10:45 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Here, here Steve! Let's start a thread that talks about how hard it is to get parents to coach! I applaud those who raise their hands and dedicate hours upon hours to coach these children. Thank you for speaking up.

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Matt Stewart

7:01 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Anniesez...I am a coach who volunteers my time each week to coach these children. There are lots of us out there who care about the culture of the league and the culture that our children are a part of. My view...if the culture was free of what Mr. Jeffers describes as "over the top" parents and coaches...maybe more individuals would be willing to serve? eg. if your personality is gentle/non-confrontational or not particularly competitive...might you sign up?

just a thought...

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KLF

11:59 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

It's hard to get parents to coach because of the culture.

And by the way, wrong hear. It's hear, hear.

20yearmiller

9:14 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

The "good" coaches will calmly educate the umps as the season goes along. When a bad call is made or a rule is not followed the coach either calls time out and has a quiet talk telling the ump the correct ruling while not expecting him to change the call, or better yet calmly talk to the ump after the game and help him understand the the mistake that was made and how to better make that call in the future. These are bright kids that learn quickly, IF, they're treated with respect and dignity.
A major problem up and down the levels (even amongst many "North" coaches) is the vast majority do not know the game they're coaching nor have the knowledge to properly teach kids how to throw, hit, field, run the bases, and know situations. They wear the gear and talk the lingo and carry themselves like they know what they're doing, but don't. That said, I do know of a few North coaches that really do know the game and teach it well. Those teams usually always make it to family day no matter how talented they are. Once past the first couple of levels managers are usually picked on friendships, not knowledge. I've seen many a Dad that played HS baseball be passed over as manager for the investment banker that barely made it through LL themselves. The ump screamers are usually men that are used to getting their way at work and at home and just lose it when they don't get their way on the field. They also feel they need that call to win a game because truth be told, they are incompetent.

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JKH

2:24 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

"The ump screamers are usually men that are used to getting their way at work and at home and just lose it when they don't get their way on the field. They also feel they need that call to win a game because truth be told, they are incompetent."

Best line 10yearmiller, you are absolutely right.

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Nick Romano

2:36 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012

Susan-Sorry that your son had a bad experience.In fairness to mshyb I had the exact opposite experience.A few years back for the first time in his little league career neither my wife nor I was at Gero for my sons game.As luck had it a mishap occurred and my son ended up needing stitches.My co-coaches in the Falcon chain treated my son like their own. Chain Manager Garry Butter was his usual great self.The OD Manny Fontaina handled the situation like a trained professional.The only time my son got upset during the whole ordeal was when he was told by the plastic surgeon that he could not play ball the next day.There are plenty of wonderful "volunteers"involved in MSHYB.

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Greg Licciardi

8:29 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Well put Matt - agreed. I have coached baseball for several years now and some of us take this too personal and too far. This is a good wake up call. It is really neat having kid umps. It is something our young players can aspire to - experiencing a fellow kid make calls with authority and respect is something for our our players to look up to and value. Both coaches and our players should be more educated on the role and respect to be given to umps. All good - let's learn from this unfortunate incident and build it into our play books moving forwawrd. Millburn has a very special youth baseball league which many of our surrounding towns envy - let's keep it that way. Greg L.

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